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it leaves out the perspective of the true heroes at the time, the other cia agents, fbi agents, military officials who said, not only is torture ineffective, it's illegal, immoral and it will do harm to our national security if we use it. that's a story entirely untold. >> absolutely right. we know those techniques played a role in the war on terror, for better or worse. did the filmmakers have an obligation to at least acknowledge that role? not making a moral judgment as to the validity of the approach, but the accuracy of the fact that torture techniques were deployed? >> in one sense it's true, entertainment is entertainment and fact is fact, this is a film that starts out by claiming it is based on fact. and once that claim is made, i do think that the filmmakers who now have a real platform given this controversy should acknowledge that in fact torture did not lead to bin laden as the facts have shown. and also, i think acknowledged that there were real heroes at the time who faced with the same kinds of pressures the filmmakers depicted said no. >> another interesting feature of t
it leaves out the perspective of the true heroes at the time, the other cia agents, fbi agents, military officials who said, not only is torture ineffective, it's illegal, immoral and it will do harm to our national security if we use it. that's a story entirely untold. >> absolutely right. we know those techniques played a role in the war on terror, for better or worse. did the filmmakers have an obligation to at least acknowledge that role? not making a moral judgment as to the validity...
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in real life, when that happened a fbi agent who was on the scene had a fit, began yelling at the agents, threatened to have them arrested and said this isn't the way we do this or the way americans do this. so really dramatic confrontations about the moral issues that were going on there. >> is there anything that the senators in writing this, have they asked for anything in return? >> they have. they have asked that sony make it clear that it's fiction but what the senators really could do and the reason the movie is so powerful is so much is still classified so all we have is the movie. we have the movie giving us sort of a window on something we haven't seen and they could get more declassified. >> amy davidson, thanks so much. great to see you. >>> it's looking like christmas here at 30 rock. more about that after break. ] you know exactly what it takes to make them feel better. ♪ you make me happy [ female announcer ] that's why you choose children's tylenol. the same brand your mom trusted for you when you were young. ♪ how much i love you [ humming ] [ female announcer ] chil
in real life, when that happened a fbi agent who was on the scene had a fit, began yelling at the agents, threatened to have them arrested and said this isn't the way we do this or the way americans do this. so really dramatic confrontations about the moral issues that were going on there. >> is there anything that the senators in writing this, have they asked for anything in return? >> they have. they have asked that sony make it clear that it's fiction but what the senators really...
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. >> you've got 35 states that don't cooperate with the fbi on background checks. you've got states now that permit gun, conceal guns in elementary schools, you've got such a patchwork quilt of states permitting guns and access to guns in places where common sense says they shouldn't be but certainly on these magazines. >> why not a bill that says how about federal grants for armed security in schools, address mental health, i mean, it's a conversation about culture as well as some of these gun restrictions because it sounds likes that's not where the administration is headed. >> i don't know how they get it through the house. in 1994 in a democratic-controlled house 216-214 is how the assault weapon ban was in the house, that was democratic controlled house, 258 democrats were in that house of representatives. you you're not going to see anything. maybe the magazine clip. i do think the magazine clip could you see some sort of movement there but this goes back to why the president has to get a deal before thend end ofe year. if the entire year is lost going two mo
. >> you've got 35 states that don't cooperate with the fbi on background checks. you've got states now that permit gun, conceal guns in elementary schools, you've got such a patchwork quilt of states permitting guns and access to guns in places where common sense says they shouldn't be but certainly on these magazines. >> why not a bill that says how about federal grants for armed security in schools, address mental health, i mean, it's a conversation about culture as well as some...
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to put that in perspective, the fbi's annual budget is $8 billion. now, i don't know where you get that money. do you raise local property taxes? do you fire 70,000 teachers? do you ask congress to kick in that money? then we're adding to the deficit. >> all right, guys. speaking of deficit, we'll turn to the fiscal cliff in just a moment. stand by. i want to bring in nbc's kristen welker with the president in honolulu. hello to you in paradise. president obama, is he as focused on the fiscal cliff today as everyone back here and on my remote live shots are? >> reporter: well, here's the answer, alex. today partisan bickering is going to be put aside, at least temporarily, with president obama and a number of members of congress and the first lady attending a memorial service that will be held for the late senator daniel inoue. that is set to get under way in about two hours. but behind the scenes i am told by white house officials that this is still very much a working vacation for president obama. i'm also told that conversations continue to go on
to put that in perspective, the fbi's annual budget is $8 billion. now, i don't know where you get that money. do you raise local property taxes? do you fire 70,000 teachers? do you ask congress to kick in that money? then we're adding to the deficit. >> all right, guys. speaking of deficit, we'll turn to the fiscal cliff in just a moment. stand by. i want to bring in nbc's kristen welker with the president in honolulu. hello to you in paradise. president obama, is he as focused on the...